Showing posts with label Jake Arrieta. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jake Arrieta. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Re-Drafting the Orioles - 2004

2004
    For the Orioles, the draft of 2004 will always be know as the Wade Townsend draft.  It's a pretty good example of the Orioles being cheap and it really bit them in the butt... or did it?

1st Round, Pick #8: Wade Townsend, RHP, Rice University

The Orioles picked Townsend as a college junior.  He was one of the top pitchers at the collegiate level during the spring before the draft.  There were red flags for me when it came to Townsend.  One of them being that Rice University had a tendency to pitch the living dog sh*t out of its "horses".  He was a college junior he had leverage of returning to school for his senior season instead of signing a contract to become a pro.  That's exactly what he did.   He spurned the Orioles "slot value" contract and went back to Rice for his senior season.  There is a little more to the story however.
From articles I have read, it seemed like the Orioles really wanted to draft Stephen Drew (picked by the D-backs as the 15th pick).  There were rumors at the time that Drew wanted huge money.  Stephen Drew's agent was none other than Scott Boras so you can draw your own conclusions from that.  I remember really wanting Homer Bailey to drop to the Orioles but the Reds took him with the previous pick.  That would have worked out pretty good for the O's.  Instead here's my new pick for the Orioles:


New Pick: Jered Weaver, RHP, Long Beach State (picked by the Angels as the #12 pick)
I would say this would happen in the real world of 2004.  Boras is also Weaver's agent.  Scott Boras is the reason that the Draft went to the new slot value system in 2012.  The Orioles didn't pick Weaver or Stephen Drew for the simple fact that the Orioles owner Peter Angelos wasn't willing to shell out the money to sign them.  Say what you will about Weaver but he's had a good career.  He was the guy I wanted when Homer Bailey went off the board.  There were several other good options drafted right after the Orioles pick at #8 including Neil Walker (#11), Weaver (#12) Billy Butler (#14), and Drew (#15).  Farther down the list, Gio Gonzalez (#38), Yovani Gallardo (#46), Hunter Pence (#64), and Dustin Pedroia (#65) were all available.

3rd Round, Pick #79: Jeff Fiorentino, OF, Florida Atlantic University.
Jeff was a solid pick at this slot.  He was a polished college hitter and made sense at this point in the draft.  I remember watching him make his major league debut and getting a hit in his first 2 ABs.  What I'll never understand is why they pulled him all the way from High-A ball straight to the majors less than a year after being drafted.  Maybe the front office was trying to cover up the Townsend debacle by promoting its next highest draft pick saying "Hey, look at this guy, he's great, we didn't need Townsend anyways!"  In turn I think they stunted his growth as a player where they could have let him develop a year or 2 in the minors to build up some confidence.  I guess that's why I'm a blog writer and not front office personnel!

New Pick: Ian Desmond, SS, Sarasota HS, FL (picked by the EXPOS as the #84 pick)
I'm not saying Fiorentino was a terrible pick but it could have been a better pick with Desmond if you look at it from a 2014 perspective.  Desmond has gone onto become an All-Star SS for the Nationals while Fiorentino played independent ball last year after couple shots at the big leagues.

4th Round, Pick #109: Brad Bergesen, RHP, Foothills HS, Santa Ana, CA.
The Orioles luck with high school pitchers hasn't been overly great over the history of the draft.  Bergesen stands out though since he worked his way up the minor league ladder and made his major league debut in a game that I actually attended.  He will always have that soft spot in my mind just because of that fact.  2009 was his best season and he faded from the Orioles plans which led to him pitching in the Far East last year.  Ever since Billy Butler broke Brad's shin with that screaming line drive, he was never the same.  I'm keeping this pick for sentimental reasons even though Chris Iannetta was the next pick in the draft.
5th Round, Pick #139, C.J. Smith, OF, University of Florida - Gainesville
I admittedly don't know much about CJ Smith.  I have several of his cards and there are some certified autographs in various products around.  This was a period of time when I was in college full time and working full time so I didn't have a ton of time to play with baseball cards or pay close attention to the draft.  He must have been somewhat highly regarded as a prospect since Topps went to the trouble of making cards of him.  Judging from his minor league record, he never got the bat going.  I think I'm going to stick with this pick mostly because there aren't any obvious upgrades in the next 10 picks of the draft, and partly because in a parallel universe maybe his bat was a little bit better.

2004 SP Prospects #427 - B.Chamberlin AU/400 RC (Rookie Card) - Courtesy of COMC.com

6th Round, Pick #169, Bryce Chamberlin, RHP, Washington State University
Here's an interesting story that I didn't know until I started researching him a little more.  Bryce was assaulted off-campus during the college baseball season before the draft.  He sustained a broken jaw while trying to end a conflict between 2 other people.  The injury ended his best season up to that point.  He was 6-1 with a 5.18 ERA.  The Orioles still saw some potential and drafted him.  Unfortunately, he never got it going in the minors and posted a 6.00 ERA for his career.
New Pick: Joe Koshansky, 1B, University of Virginia (Drafted by the Rockies with the 170th pick)
Again I am robbing the Rockies pick here with another player I followed pretty closely through the minors.  UVA is my favorite college baseball team and they always seem to field a competitive squad.  He destroyed minor league pitching during his career but never could put it together in the majors when he got a chance.  Getting a good shot to play First Base in Colorado during the 2000s was going to be tough since legendary Todd Helton played there.  Had Joe been given a shot to play somewhere else besides the Mile High city, he might have had better numbers.  Other players taken in the 6th round were Ben Zobrist (#184), and Cla Meredith (#185 from Virginia Commonwealth, VCU for short)

2007 Bowman Heritage Signs of Greatness #SJ - Seth Johnston G - Courtesy of COMC.com


7th Round, Pick #199, Seth Johnston, 2B, University of Texas at Austin
I don't know much about this guy or remember hearing about him in the Orioles farm system.  He didn't sign a contract, returned to school and was drafted again the next year by the Padres.

The 7th round of the 2004 draft wasn't very successful in terms of players making the Big Leagues.  Only 3 players have had just brief cups of coffee.  I guess I'm just going to stick with the pick.

8th Round, Pick #229, David Haehnel, LHP, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
David Haehnel is a prime example of the Orioles ruining a prospect before they could reach their potential.  During his first 2 years in the Orioles system he was an outstading reliever racking up saves and keeping a very respectable ERA.  Then came 2006 when someone had the wonderful idea of turning him into a starter.  That's when the wheels came off.  He was hit hard the next 2 seasons and then released.  Its a shame that they didn't leave well enough alone and just let him be a reliever.

While I'm tempted to change the pick here, I'm sticking with Haehnel on account of what could have been.  I was tempted by future and short time Oriole Jim Miller (drafted with the next pick) but figured Haehnel could have been just as successful if the O's hadn't screwed up his development.


After the 8th round things became dismal for the O's.  None of the players drafted after the 4th Round made an impact for the O's.  In the 15th round they drafted Future San Diego Padre Will Venable as well as future St. Louis Cardinal Jaime Garcia in the 30th Round but neither signed and went back to school.

There were several future O's drafted later than the 8th round that year including:

Troy Patton (by the Astros, 9th Round, Pick #274)
Steve Pearce (by the Red Sox, 10th Round Pick #305, Did Not Sign)

Mark Worrell (by Cardinals, 12th Round Pick #360)
Mark Reynolds (by Diamondbacks, 16th Round Pick #476)
Zach Phillips (by Rangers, 23rd Round, Pick #681)
Jake Arrieta (by Reds, 31st Round, Pick #918, Did Not Sign)
David Hernandez (by Diamondbacks 34th Round, Pick #1016, Did Not Sign)
(sorry about the upside down scan!)
Chris "Crush" Davis (by Yankees, 50th Round Pick #1496, Did Not Sign)


So plenty of late rounders were later grabbed by the O's in trades and waiver claims.  I had no idea that Davis was drafted by the Yankees.  Late rounders like himself are usually players that have a strong college commitment and teams just take a flier on them hoping that they will take the money and not go to school.  Chris spurned the Yankees offer, went to school, increased his draft stock, and was drafted by the Rangers a few years later.


Here's a few good players that were drafted that year.  I'm sure there are more than a couple teams that wouldn't mind picking these guys as first rounders seeing how they turned out!
Dexter Fowler (by Rockies, 14th Round, Pick #410)
Mark Trumbo (by Angels 18th Round, Pick #533)
David Price (by Dodgers 19th Round, Pick #568, Did Not Sign)

Saturday, April 7, 2012

Orioles @ Tides Exhibition IP Autograph #1

It's IP autograph weekend here at "O" NO!!! Another Orioles Blog.  I'm featuring each and every in-person autograph that I obtained this past Wednesday when the Orioles played an exhibition game against their AAA affiliate, The Norfolk Tides.



#1) Jake Arrieta

Orioles Opening Day Starter Jake Arrieta signed for everybody who wanted a sig when the Orioles were jumping off the bus and heading into the locker room.  I like both of these but the Gypsy Queen cards really look great when they've been inked!

Friday, April 6, 2012

Card Show Report: The Bargain Hunter

I did a fair amount of Dime Box digging at this show and I pulled out a ton of great trade bait and cards for my collections, I did score some other bargains.  Each of these cards featured in this post I bought for a dollar a piece.  Some may say I overpaid, but I say bargain.
2012 Topps Tribute Cal Ripken Jr.  Don't get me wrong, I like the high end products just as much as anybody.  You just won't catch me buying any (not anymore at least).  This is my favorite Tribute Ripken out of all that I own.
This Cal is Die-Cut.  Since it's the Gold Medallion parallel I had to have it since these don't show up very often.
MOOSE ALERT!  The back of the card says its one of 150 made.  I don't think it's #1/150, just one of the 150 made.  Unless anybody has further knowledge on the numbering I'm going to stick with my original hypothesis.
It's appropriate that this card posts on Orioles Opening Day.  Jake was named Opening Day starter for the first time of hopefully many more.  I think this is his breakout season now that he got those bone chips removed from his elbow.  He's pitching pain free for the first time since his college days so I'm interested to see the results.

This concludes my card show posts for the Spring 2012 Show at Chantilly.  I hope you all enjoyed seeing the cards I got as much as I enjoyed showing them off.

Monday, November 14, 2011

Trade with Kyle of Just a Bit Outside

When I was still a single man way back when (September), Kyle from the relatively new Just a Bit Outside blog contacted me about a trade.  He was interested in the Aaron Crow autograph I pulled from my Topps Chrome box.  I also threw together some other random Royals cards that I hope he'd enjoy.  Here's just a few notable cards that I got in return:

I'm having some trouble making a decision about which binder to place this card.  Should it go in with my Markakis binder or in with my 2004 Orioles Team Set binder.  Decisions, Decisions, Decisions.
I'm really digging this card of Jake.  I believe this is his first rookie card that came out in Topps Chrome last year.  I hope Jake has a speedy recovery from elbow surgery and continues his growth as a pitcher.  I think if he can reduce his walk rate, he could become a franchise cornerstone.
I'm going to close with these 2 Paninni stickers from 1988.  I think the stickers speak for themselves!

Thanks goes to Kyle for the nice package that he sent me.

Tuesday, November 23, 2010

Adventures in Retail


I had the retail itch the other day and stopped by Target on the way home. I admit I get retail fever from time to time. I am glad I was running a pack busting fever on this particular day. I picked up a 3 packs of 2010 Topps Update. Here are the highlights of those packs:

Yes I got 3 Strasburgers in 3 packs. Since he's on like 20 different cards in Update series, the odds are stacked in the collector's favor. I know a lot of collector's are stressing over the #661 thing. I put it at the end of my base set. It's #'d 661 for reason. The Gold and the More Tales of the game kind of annoy me for some reason. I don't think I will be buying any more Update Series because I'm a few cards short of the set.
I also bought 2 of the value packs of Topps Chrome. Refractor's galore! I think this is the first time I have ever opened a pack of Topps Chrome. I was pretty lucky I think because I ended up with some sort of refractor in each pack! The Strasburg and Stanton Orange came from the same clear cellophane pack. The Arrieta came in the other. Jake brings me one step closer to the Orioles Orange Refractor Team set. The Manny card is my best refractor/x-fractor pull of the bunch. To my astonishment, the Escobar Gold Refractor is a 1 in 775 packs! I am seriously thinking about busting a Hobby box of this stuff because I've had such good luck. My birthday is coming up so maybe I should treat myself or maybe I should quit while I'm ahead. What do you think?
Not pictured are : Orange Refractors: Yadier Molina, Roy Oswalt, Jered Weaver. Refractors of Torii Hunter, Johnny Cueto. X-Fractors of Carlos Zambrano, Erick Aybar

So this time I beat the odds at retail. I guess every collector has his day some times.

Wednesday, November 10, 2010

Trade with Sam from The Daily Dimwit pt. 1

I solicited this trade with Sam because he was asking for 2009 Upper Deck 25th Anniversary cards. I was happy to oblige because personally I had no use for them. If you have any to trade I would send them to Sam because what I got in return was awesome.

This Jake Arrieta card features on of Baltimore's finer prospects. He pitched in the Olympics 2 years ago and worked his way up to the majors this season. I hope we see more of the Jake that shut the Stankees down in his major league debut than the Jake that got torched in a 2 inning outing in San Diego.

MINIS. I really like the Orioles in mini form. I guess they just remind me of opening Cracker Jacks as a kid and getting baseball cards out of them, not the educational crap they put in them now. MMM Cracker Jacks.....

3 Cals I need for my Ultra Iron Man set. I have over half of them now. If you have any you would like to trade me, please contact me.
2 Nice Nick Markakis cards that I need. The Piece of History Card is one of my Top 10 Most Wanted Orioles list that will now need to be replaced.

I look forward to trading again with you soon Sam!